In this interview we meet the writer Reni Eddo-Lodge. She wrote the book Why I’m no longer talking to white people about race. She talks about race, so I assume that the other side in this interview is not a white person (it must be hard to define what is white, for most socalled white people seem to be pink to me). It seems to be a modern day approach of issues that some people seem to be excluded from discussions. Some people create safe spaces. I hope that not every person has or is a socalled safe space, it would lead to a world with insular safe spaces.